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Mike from Rochester

Don't Give Up on Frye

Pretty much most Browns fans and a majority of the media (both national and Cleveland area) believe Charlie Frye isn’t the quarterback for the Browns.  The Browns brass is also very lukewarm concerning Charlie’s ability to be the man for the Browns.

Don’t count me among them.  Do I think Charlie has proven he is the guy—no way, but I am convinced now is not the time to give up on him.  His year to prove he can be player is coming this fall. This will be his third year.  He has some much needed experience behind him.  He needs a fair look.  Our line was miserable last year, our running game non existent.  He looked very good against the Ravens in Cleveland.  It wasn’t his fault our pass protection scheme was all wrong on that slant pattern to Edwards.  Go look at the tape.  He did well against the Chiefs, when he finally had a running game.

Another thing, we played against some of the best defenses in the league last season.  Everyone up my way was talking about the progress Bills QB JP Losman was making.  Well he was, until he played a defense like the Ravens. 

It is not that I think Charlie is definitely the guy; it is just the wrong time to write him off.  Phil Savage says a lot of things, playing both sides of the fence on key issues concerning the team.

This is understandable given it is draft time and Brady Quinn may be on the horizon.  When Savage says Frye (or possibly Anderson for that matter) may be capable of doing the job with the right support system, he may indeed be correct and telling the truth.  

There is pressure for the Browns to win now—at least for Crennel if not Savage.  A rookie QB won’t provide that, nor will any of the low ranking free agents out there.  I say try to pick up Troy Smith, perhaps in the third round.  I think he can play.  Develop him.  Let Frye be the veteran in ’07 and build a real team around him and whoever eventually takes the reigns at QB.

In terms of Smith, I am concerned he will be picked right in front of us by Tamba Bay with the last pick in the second round.  Sobo had that in his mock draft a few weeks back and it could happen.  I don't want Smith to show too well right now, that is better for us.  This way he will be there in the third round.

On thing I would like to express, I am not an Ohio State fan, though I like their program, I actually am a big Notre Dame fame.  I like Quinn alot, but I am not 100% sold on him.  It is that accuracy thing.  I will never forget the SC game at ND when he was a junior.  All he had to do was hit his back out of the backfield on third down to run the clock out and he missed him.  If he makes that throw the back walks in and SC's late Leinert score is meaningless.

At his time we really don’t know who to draft with our first round pick until the first wave of free agency ends.  Let’s see how that plays out before we lock into a certain player.  Right now, my first choice would be Joe Thomas, my second choice would be to trade down and my third choice would be AP.

If ever there was an opportunity to trade down it is this year.  Most observers believe Tampa Bay covets Calvin Johnson.  Good.  Let’s move down if Thomas isn’t there to about 7, 8 or nine. The Vikings would love Johnson and the Dolphins allegedly want Quinn.

But first let’s see how things shake out with the early signings of free agency.

Are you going to tell me, if the Browns somehow got lucky and signed BOTH, YES I MEAN BOTH, Steinbach and Diehlman and drafted Thomas, Charlie wouldn’t be able to get the job done?  Think about it.  It is possible. Sign both guards, draft Thomas, pick up Michael Bush in round 2, and now you have something.  Maybe Steinbach and Diehlman are a bit of a dream, but Savage did say he could very well sign two offensive linemen.

Go for it Browns and don’t right Charlie off yet.  With experience under his belt he may yet prove to be the guy.

Very few quarterbacks ever looked good in their first and second seasons regardless of what type of mechanics they had, good or bad.  If Charley bombs, and the rest of the offense is in place, we can pick up a veteran in ’08 or perhaps Smith might be ready to take over.  At the very least Smith can be the backup in ’08.  That is assuming Smith won’t go to Tampa at 64.

I will have more to offer in my next entry regarding who I think we should look at in a trade down scenario.

Comments

 

overtoad said:

With all due respect intended, I see a contradiction here.  By investing a 3rd round (or higher) pick on Smith, we are, in fact, giving up on Frye.  With Russell most likely being gone with the #1 pick to the Faiders, we're looking at a rookie QB who's highly unlikely to play better than Frye has to this point.  As you noted, taking any QB is a developmental procedure, not netting us any results this year.  So instead of investing a 1st day selection on another QB, we're best suited to sign a run-of-the-mill veteran as insurance in case Frye flops.  Such a veteran represents much less of a "no confidence" vote towards Frye than another 1st day selection, especially Troy Smith, the Homer flavor of the week.  Quite obviously, Frye is on thin ice, and deservedly so.  He has received very little support, but from the things we are able to access, he's lacking in several key areas.  In order to honestly find out if he's the guy or not, the organization needs to maintain at least a positive feel around Frye.  Drafting Homer Smith does just the opposite.

If we're going to back Frye, the best solution as it pertains to the big picture is a veteran QB.  If we're going to admit that Frye is a failure, the best way to do that is to draft yet another 1st day QB.

February 27, 2007 11:20 AM

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